You and Yourish need to remove your heads from your ass.

Nah, I like Trish better (or are we trying to hide ourselves for some reason? You might want to change your WHOIS info, genius.)

No… I think as parents we (and it’s definitely more than just us two who feel this way) know a little more about the topic than you do. And I still disagree that school employees (I sure as hell ain’t considering a bus driver an “authority” figure.) have the right to hit kids. I agree they have a rough job that I sure as hell wouldn’t want to do, but they have procedures for that kind of stuff.

Whether I post the rest of the “paragpraph” or not… it’s irrelevant to the point that was made.

“Would YOU like it if the cat stuck a fork through YOUR stomach?”

Would YOU like it if the cat tried to see if YOUR ear could be turned completely inside out?

Yes, my children were, are, and always will be LITTLE ANGELS! HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Using that logic, you may in the future refer to me as Mr. Hosting Matters, since that is what appears on MY /Whois. You can call me Mr. Matters for short, to save your fingers a bit.

Now, as to your gross distortion of the original post (which you fail to address utterly, not much to anybody’s surprise), you can stick your “parent” card back where it belongs. I’m one too, you see, and I couldn’t disagree with you more if I tried really, really hard. I guess my “parent card” cancels yours, then?

Good.

Now that that’s out of the way, you might want to specify exactly what nebulous and mythical “procedures” open to bus drivers trying to keep an idiot child from distracting you while you’re driving his sorry little ass around it is that you refer to?

Mind you, I’m only interested in the ones that will actually stop the distraction immediately, hopefully BEFORE the snotty little brat manages to distract you for long enough to hit a tree or another vehicle.

To be helpful, you can forget about throwing the kid off the bus. With a twelve-year-old that you’re responsible for, that constitutes “abandonment” and can get you in some serious doo-doo real quick.

Ask him nicely?

I DO believe that the driver had tried that one already. Several times, actually.

But hey, let the little twit grow up to think that he can do anything he bloody well pleases anywhere he pleases. He’ll be lucky to get away with a slap on the cheek out in the real world.

And “Kare”: Please DO read the entire article in question before you comment. Remember, a wise man once said that “it is better to keep quiet and have everybody think you’re a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.”

The lovable little tot wasn’t saying “penis” once and it wasn’t the reason that he got a well-deserved slap. As far as I’m concerned, it wouldn’t matter if he’d been shouting “Hail Mary”. The problem was that the little moron wouldn’t shut up when the grown-up responsible for his transportation and safety told him to.

Again: Try pulling that kind of stunt out in the real world and you’ll be more than lucky to get off with a slap.

Sheesh. You’d have thought that the guy broke both of the kid’s arms and chopped his head off.

I just looked up my info on WhoIs and guess what Numbnuts! It has my correct name and it’s NOT Trish.

You truly are a fucking moron.

The fact that you two morons are treating a public database like it’s “private information” cracks me the hell up.

you can stick your “parent” card back where it belongs. I’m one too, you see, and I couldn’t disagree with you more if I tried really, really hard. I guess my “parent card” cancels yours, then?

As far as the “parent card”, my perspective is one of “if that were my kid”

… it seems what someone else does with “someone else’s kid” is fine and dandy with you guys.

But I ask you (as obviously no one is reading a damn thing I wrote, just wasting time defending their stale positions)…

IS IT OK IS SOMEONE ELSE HITS YOUR KID?
Hmmm…?

I suspect there will be a different answer on this one. (hypocrisy, anyone?)

Bus drivers have procedures. They report these incidents to their base, who in turn consults the school’s principal, who in turn reminds these parents that “riding the bus is a privilege, not a right”.

Repeat offenders are banned from the bus for the rest of the semester, seriously inconveniencing “not MY child” parents, to the point where they start opening their eyes.

And that is the “mythological procedure” as you kindly put it.

Most buses I’ve seen, the kids are bouncing all over the place, throwing shit, and screaming like banshees… I don’t know how they do it, but many of these professionals can tune it right out. How this guy can hear a lone annoying kid mutter “penis” in such an environment is a mystery to me.

Aren’t you glad you came back with back-up this time Trish?

Actually that’s our dog that they keep doing that to. But we’re on the same team here, so I don’t want to nitpick. :0)

Excuse me for a moment.

HAHAHAHAHA!

Anyway, judging by your attitude I’m guessing that it would be ok if *any* authority figure smacked your kid around? From say, the lunch lady to the school secretary and anyone in between, so long as they represent some form of authority to your child and, *in their opinion*, your child was doing something that *might* cause a problem?

“Mind you, I’m only interested in the ones that will actually stop the distraction immediately, hopefully BEFORE the snotty little brat manages to distract you for long enough to hit a tree or another vehicle.”

Does this happen a lot? I’ve had 3 children ride buses in various parts of the country, big cities and small. What normally happens, in my experience is that a child is, as Eric says, banned from riding the bus. The child’s *parents* then deal with the child. Besides, if a principal needs a parent’s permission to hit a child with a paddle then what makes it ok for a freakin’ bus driver to smack one? Teachers and principals are not allowed to simply just hit children, regardless of the situation.

“Most buses I’ve seen, the kids are bouncing all over the place, throwing shit, and screaming like banshees…”

Yup. And I still stand by my statement that if you hit my kid, I’m coming after you. I don’t give a damn what he did or how much it irritated you. You do not have the right to hit my child. Period.

Hi Trish!

And this broad generalization about me is based on … what? Where do you get the assumption that I let my kids get away with anything? They are the sole responsibility of my wife and I. We’re the final authority, and we decide an apropriate punishment. End of story.

I wish I could see the world with such “Black and White” clarity like you guys sometimes.

why don’t you go downtown sometime and start pushing buttons of random strangers and see how long it takes to get your ass kicked. better bring your bat big man, cuz i’m guessing most people aren’t going to try and just “talk it out” with you if you’re going out of your way to piss them off.

Something tells me the good Mayor here is speaking from experience, and has learned this lesson the hard way. I better listen to him. :0)

I am curious though how long you’ve known the child in question because you certainly seem to know quite a lot about him and his parents. You state that his parents “let him do whatever the hell he wanted” and then go on to imply that he wouldn’t have gotten in trouble for his behavior on the bus even if the parents had been given the option of disciplining their own child, instead of a bus driver doing it for them. You call the child a “little bastard” and a “little dirtbag” so you must know something about this family that the rest of us don’t. Please share.

I feel sorry for the children of those of you who condone strangers hitting them. If you teach your children to respect adults (and you should, with some qualifications), you’re basically saying that *any* adult is an authority figure for them. Therefore, *any* adult is free to hit your kid as long as that adult feels that your “little dirtbag clearly had no respect for anyone”. Because hey, you can’t have it both ways.

It would crack me up even MORE if it was actually the case. Do go ahead and point me in the direction of the part of my post where I make any such statement, Einstein.

As to the rest of your blather, I won’t bother repeating myself, seeing as it’s pretty obvious that you have no intentions (or capabilities) of answering in an intelligible manner.

Go ahead and teach your kid that pushing people’s buttons is acceptable behavior without consequences and you WILL be visiting the county morgue one day because he pushed the wrong ones.

This comes from someone who has been asked several times if this scenario only applies to “someone else’s kid” and not yours, and has avoided it every time?

Go ahead and teach your kid that pushing people’s buttons is acceptable behavior without consequences and you WILL be visiting the county morgue one day because he pushed the wrong ones.

In light of this tastless remark toward my six year old son, I think you’re done here Misha.

Not to mention that I answered this one with your buddy “Mayor Jimmy” up there, who seems to carry the same delusions of grandeur as you do (or are powerless loser/walter mitty types in real life, who knows?)

1. You’ve avoided questions
2. You only know how to respond with name calling and ridiculous histrionics
3. Obviously it’s okay for anyone to hit your kids. Hey that’s cool. That’s your choice. I’m not going to argue any more than you think you’re going to change my mind.

I welcome intelligent conversation here. Even if someone’s opinion differs from mine I can respect it, as long as that person returns the same level of respect.

Since you’re an absolute asshole with nothing worthwhile to contribute, I don’t think anyone would ever fault me for deleting anything you and your buddies say from now on.

You’re not looking to discuss an issue, you’re looking to argue, and any excuse to spew vitriol. I’ve lost all respect I’ve had for you, and you’re not worth the aggravation.

Sayonara…

Wow. Just….wow. I certainly wouldn’t fault you for deleting anything they have to say from now on.

It’s amazing how people leap to such conclusions, huh? I guess it’s a *consequence* of digging a hole he can’t get out of. I mean, how do you defend the position that you, as a parent, have no intention of protecting your children from strangers who feel like smacking them? It’s an indefensible position, not to mention bad parenting.

Anyway, good riddance to them both.

I just can’t believe he said that.

OOH! OOH! I know the answer to this one. I used to be a bus driver, thankyouverymuch. And the procedure would be to stop the bus (after finding a safe place to pull over that is). If the threat of sitting there all afternoon and evening isn’t enough to shut the kid up, then we would be forced to use our radio (they probably have cell phones or something now) to call the school or we might return to the school depending on the individual situation, and someone there would call the child’s parents who would then be forced to come get the child at the school or wherever we were forced to stop the bus. The kid would also have to answer to the principal or whoever was in charge of deciding appropriate discipline for bus incidents. Sometimes this is left to the superintendent of transportation, and it usually meant not being able to ride the bus for a specified amount of time. You’d be surprised at how quickly a kid straightened up after mom or dad lost time from work and/or had to make alternate arrangements for getting the kid to school.

Surprisingly, during my whole career as a driver I never had the need to hit a kid in order to make him shut up nor did I ever have to contact the school. I guess I’m just special that way though.