Comments on: Did we outgrow the Z-List?

By: lizard

lizard — Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

my opinion: it was magical when it was a disorganization, when it was just put up a button don’t even link it to anything just be the z (it was very zen). as soon as it turned into a club with a clubhouse and … you know, club members, the magic was gone. everything’s a great idea till you get people involved, people always mess stuff up, whining and bickering and fighting and then having the makeup sex … oh wait. that’s something else.

i loved the concept of having a button with no link, anarchy, man, the magic was in the anarchy. anarchy!anarchy! c’mon, everybody all together, anarchy! ana… oh wait. nevermind.

By: Tammie

Tammie — Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

LOL,ya’ll are crazy !

By: batty

batty — Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

As soon as it became really a club it became clique-y, no matter how hard people tried. It became hard to have everone play nice. There was bickering, people got hurt, it became about promoting some people’s agendas. I’m with the lizard. It was more fun before it got heavily organized. When it was a button that didn’t link anywhere.

Linkmeister did a lot of work for which he was very quiet and didn’t get much publicity - not his style. He was a true Z lister. Just saying.

By: Busy Mom

Busy Mom — Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

I wasn’t familiar with it, so I chacked it out. Looked like a good idea to me, maybe it’ll come back.

By: michele

michele — Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

Just for the record, I never wanted to be part of it, never asked to join, but my name was put up there anyhow. I never had anything to do with it and I won’t this time around either.

By: Solonor

Solonor — Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

I wasn’t around for it, either, but it looks like it was fun.

Again, I don’t know how you have a “club” without it getting all club-like. I am DYING for a single place to go where I can get caught up on everyone’s important issues all at once. It would be really cool if there was a central repository for special projects and calls for help…a Blogger Network Central…but not one that would get tied up with politics, spats and crap. Utopia!

Have you got it set up, yet? What’s taking you so long?

By: Kare

Kare — Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

Did we outgrow the Z-list?

In a word, yes.

By: Mike

Mike — Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

We didn’t outgrow Z-list, it outgrew us.

We never expected it to become so popular, and once people wanted to take part we had no idea what to do with them - and so it was abandoned by everyone.

Besides, since the embryonic days of Z-list many of the people who first took part are barely on speaking terms with one another; if that’s ‘outgrowing’ then I’m Britney Spears’ left breast.

By: batgrl

batgrl — Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

Yeah, lots of people were hurt. Some for foolish reasons, some because some people decided to be rude. BlogCon came out of the Z list. BatChat is a remnant of the regular Z List chats - Lee’s Thursday Chats was where the early folk would meet and talk. That started with just Hoopty, Lee, and myself.

I note you’re not mentioning Hoopty.

By: batgrl

batgrl — Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000

And not to become a pest but:

“It made stars out of a lot of people”

That was exactly the kind of thinking that killed it off. Hoopty really wanted popularity and hits. Cooties had a different vision, took a lot of heat from various quarters, and wasn’t given much appreciation for the huge amount of work he did either. Not that he was in it for the appreciation - that sounds too much like being in it for the hits. It’s just that some people made it a place for themsevles to be noticed - and others were more interested in noticing other people, other writers, other projects - instead of self promotion. That linklist column on the left of the blog - I know Linky wasn’t the only one who worked on it, but he did frequently and it took time. And he didn’t use it as self promotion.